A pair (~, ~) of families of subsets of an n-element set X is cancellative if, for all A, A' e .~ and B, B' E ~, the following conditions hold: A\B = A ' \ B ~ A =A' and BkA =B'kA~B = B'. We prove that every such pair satisfies I.~11~1 < 0 ~, where 0 ~2.3264. This is related to a conjecture of ErdSs and Katona on cancellative families and to a conjecture of Simonyi on recovering pairs. For the ...