Suppose that c is an operator on a Hilbert Space H such that the von Neumann algebra N generated by c is finite. Let τ be a faithful normal tracial state on N and set b1 = (c+ c )/2 and b2 = (c− c)/2i. Also write B for the spectral scale of {b1, b2} relative to τ . In previous work by the present authors, some joint with Nik Weaver, B has been shown to contain considerable spectral information ...